To the Reader:
Craig Hazen is the Director of M.A. Program in Christian Apologetics,
and Associate Professor of Comparative Religion and Apologetics
at Biola University (Craig
Hazen's Biola Bio), and Vice President of Evangelical
Ministries to New Religions (EMNR).
Greg Koukl is the Founder and President
of STAND TO REASON,
a ministry that "trains Christians to think more clearly
about their faith and to make an even-handed, incisive, yet gracious
defense for classical Christianity and classical Christian values
in the public square" (Our
Mission). Koukl's radio show, Stand to Reason,
broadcasts live every Sunday from 3:00 to 5:00 PM on KBRT-AM
740 in Los Angeles, CA ( http://www.str.org/radio/index.htm
The following excerpts are from Greg Koukl's
radio interview with Craig Hazen, dated December 19, 2004. The
entire 57 minute program may be reviewed at http://www.strradio.org/current/121904.mp3
[At 4:07 into the program, Greg Koukl introduces
"Now, my guest; a dear friend; a former Chairman of the
Board at Stand To Reason and, he's still on our Board; Director
of the Apologetics program at Biola University...Doctor Craig
Hazen. Craig, it's great to have you here today."
"Great to be here."
[At 49:09 into the interview:]
"And one doesn't have to say that Mormonism is Satanism,
which is a particular kind of religious expression. To say that
it is a false religion and therefore inspired by an angel of
light, by Satan, which it seems to me Dave Hunt is saying. Yet,
Richard Mouw is trying to distance himself from that analysis.
Would you be comfortable with Dave Hunt's analysis here, given
as I just read it?"
"Certainly. On one level I think it's totally from the New
Testament. You know, Galatians, 2nd Corinthians 11. These are
very powerful statements. I think when you, when you boil it
all down, certainly. I actually believe that Mormonism is
a tremendous achievement of the devil! You know, sometimes
the devil is very clever about dancing right on the edge of what
appears to be Christian. He's most effective in doing that. We
need to be aware of that."
[At 53:38 into the interview:]
"Much of our view of Mormonism is provided by these white-shirted,
bike-riding missionaries who come to our door. And, you know,
they know nothing about nothing, really, in terms of Mormonism;
they just don't. They're 19 year old kids who'd rather be doing
something else, generally, but they're, you know, doing their
duty and doing their best. They've learned some basic lessons
to provide and, they've practiced and practiced and practiced
giving their testimony, and that's where it resides."
[At 55:07 into the interview:]
"Okay, one last thing here. We've just got a minute or two...James
White, well known Christian apologist, thinker...James is concerned
that the comment by [Richard] Mouw has really disheartened Christian
apologists, because now he's kinda aided and abeted the enemy,
as it were, and taken a shot at these guys that are really working
hard...You have a liberal Christian from a liberal institution--Richard
Mouw--with liberal theologians, and they're talking about these
kind of things. And you got all these other guys who are down
in the trenches and they're working hard for years trying to
make a difference. And, now, they are thoroughly disheartened...they're
discouraged to make an effort, because this is all used against
them. What do you have to say?"
"Well, when he [Richard Mouw] made the comment in the Tabernacle,
I, you know, something inside of me; my heart went out to folks
like Jerald and Sandra Tanner; people who've done such tremendous
historical work that I believe helped push us to the place we
are today in this new level of engagement with the LDS. And,
you know, to say anything that would lump them in or even cause
them to be dishonored in any way troubles me some. And I'm glad
Rich Mouw--although he made a statement--he came back with some
sort of clarification on that, be that as it may. But..."
"I'm not sure it helped much, you know."
"Yeah. I'm not sure but, you know, I totally understand
that that could be dishonoring to the folks out there in the
"You got a word of encouragement for them?"
"Keep up the great work, guys! We all have to work together.
And I hope they understand that really what we're involved in
is a huge war here, where we've got people in the trenches. Not
only that, we've got people who are doing peace talks too, who
are engaging at the highest levels, seeing if there's any way
we can workout a lasting peace."
"So we got a whole army here working and everybody's got
their job, and you're doing one part of it and they're doing
another part, and we all work together."
"That's right. And I'm one of them. I stand in the trenches
too! So, I honor what they do."
"Craig Hazen! Great to have you as a friend; as a brother
in Christ; as a co-worker on the field of the kingdom of God.
Good talking to you."
[End of interview]
Endorsing a devilish achievement
Certainly, in light of Galatians chapter
1 and 2 Corinthians chapter 11, all cults--including
Mormonism--promote a counterfeit Jesus, gospel and spirit, are
overshadowed by demonic activity, and are under a divine curse
But oddly enough, at some point in time
before or after the interview, this same Craig Hazen, who clearly
stated that "I actually believe that Mormonism is a tremendous
achievement of the devil!" was actually furnished
with a copy of a manuscript written by a Mormon that defends
Mormonism, to read and comment on. Once published, Robert Millet's
book, A Different Jesus? The Christ of the Latter-Day Saints,
included Hazen in its Acknowlegements section:
"My friends Craig Blomberg, Robert Matthews, David Neff,
Craig Hazen, Truman Madsen, Greg Johnson, and David Paulsen have
been kind and helpful in reading the manuscript and offering
comments about its quality" (p. xvi).
Make no mistake about it, Robert Millet is a dedicated, lifelong
Mormon, a Professor at Brigham Young University, prolific author
and writer, and "Now holds a joint appointment with Church
Public Affairs (Manager of Outreach and Interfaith Relations)"
(Robert Millet's BYU
Bio). He also instructs Mormon missionaries and regular
LDS church members in how to defend Mormonism against "anti-mormon"
critics (refer to the video, "Religious scholar addresses
how to handle anti-mormon criticism and questions" at BYU NewsNet,
March 11, 2004).
It is interesting to note that of those who were provided with
Craig Blomberg is a Professor at Denver Seminary; David Neff
is an Editor at Christianity Today magazine; Craig Hazen
is a Professor at Biola University and Vice President of EMNR;
Greg Johnson is the President of Standing Together ministries--all
of whom are professing Christians. Those remaining, Robert Matthews,
Truman Madsen and David Paulsen are Mormon.
When Millet's book finally hit the shelves of both walk-in and
online Christian bookstores nationwide, the Christian community
learned the results of Hazen's evaluation of A Different Jesus?:
"Robert L. Millet has done us all a great service with this
book. He communicates contemporary Latter-day Saints thinking
on Christology with remarkable clarity and charity. His years
of open, bold, and authentic dialogue with traditional Protestants
of all stripes have certainly given him a special vantage point.
This work sets the stage for a whole new level of robust dialogue
between the LDS and evangelical Christian communities" (Craig
J. Hazen, A Different Jesus?, back cover. See also Eerdmans
Think about it: Mormons and professing Christians together, reading,
commenting on and eventually endorsing a book written by a Mormon
that defends the cult of Mormonism. This, in and of itself, is
a deceptive combination, and deadly to the spiritual welfare
of the uninformed reader, whether Christian or
I know that after
my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing
the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking
to draw away the disciples after them (Acts 20:29-30).
Keep in mind that Millet, along with and by way of Greg Johnson
Together, has worked hard
over the years to get his foot in the door of Christian churches
both here in the U.S. and abroad. Millet and Johnson had their
own one-hour weekly broadcast out of Salt Lake City named the
"Bob and Greg in Conversation" at KTMV-TV20, prior
to its cancellation, that is.
Again, during his radio interview with Greg Koukl, Hazen testified
publicly that he actually believed that Mormonism is "a
tremendous achievement of the devil!" Later, he had the
audacity to do an about-face turnaround and provide a glowing
review of a book written by a cultist that defends a cult! Hazen's
actions, along with his colleagues, will be a stumbling block
to gullible Christians. When the dust has settled, history will
record that their actions will seal the fate of doubting Mormons--to
their eternal doom and separation from God.
Anyone who goes
too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not
have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the
Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring
this teaching, do not receive him into your house,
and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting
his evil deeds
(2 John 1:9-11).
President of the Mormon church admits belief in a different
"In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley
spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do
not believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I don't. The traditional
Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak.
For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the
Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He together with His Father,
appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph
left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than
all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages'" (Deseret
News, Church News, June 20, 1998, p.7. Gordon B. Hinckley
is the current President/Prophet of the Mormon church).
You are my witnesses,
says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may
know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there
was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I,
am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior (Isaiah 43:10-11).
Contrary to Hazen's endorsement, Hinkley's beliefs and Mormonism's
teachings, there is no Mormon "Christology." There
is no Mormon "Jesus." There are no Mormon "gods."
The Book of Mormon isn't worth the paper it's printed
on. Universal salvation (universalism) is foreign to the Bible.
Every article, book, word, prayer, writing and thought produced
in the name and defense of Mormonism is worthless. Mormonism
is a seductive cult that began with a false teacher named Joseph
Therefore I said
to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe
that I am He, you will die in your sins (John 8:24).
Yet, because of "Christians" endorsing books that defend
and promote the false teachers, false prophets and false doctrines
of the Mormon church, precious souls will be lost and condemned
to eternal damnation in the fires of hell. Doubting Mormons will
be further deceived and turned away from the real Jesus Christ
of the Bible. Innocent but gullible Christians will be conditioned
into believing that there is nothing really wrong with books
like A Different Jesus? (or Mormonism itself), because
it has been approved of and endorsed by "Christians."
Craig Hazen, Richard Mouw, Craig Blomberg, David Neff and Greg
Johnson were wrong to endorse A Different Jesus?, and
they must be held accountable.
Woe unto them
that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light,
and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet
for bitter! (Isaiah
Now that professing Christians are actively involved in the endorsement
and promotion of Mormonism, the precedence has been set for others
to follow. While local churches have fallen prey, this dangerous
trend may soon evolve into the captivation of entire Christian
denominations by the Mormon church's non-stop efforts to convince
the entire body of Christ that it is Christian.
If you think, It can't happen, then take a look at the
following ministries, pastors and congregations that have already
fallen prey to compromise, deception, dialogues and endorsements,
involving Mormons and professing Christians (click HERE - HERE and HERE).
Now I urge you,
brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances
contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from
For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their
own appetites; and by
their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of
Indeed, when news of the endorsements reached the body of Christ,
thousands of Christian pastors, laymen, cult-evangelists, apologists
and seminary students across the nation should have stood up,
voiced their objections, called for immediate disciplinary measures,
withheld support, found another seminary to attend, resigned
memberships and positions, and defended the faith. Instead, a
cold, icy spirit of fear and compromise took hold and caused
Christians to be more concerned about their positions and what
their peers might say or do. As it is, the professing Christians
who endorsed Millet's book continue to hold their positions of
influence--including Craig Hazen.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which
is good; abstain from every form of evil (1 Thessalonians
Regardless of their credentials on
the wall, lofty positions, status or popularity, no one is above
accountability! No one is above examination! No one is immune
from scrutiny! But everyone will answer to the King of kings
and Lord of lords (Matthew chapter 23).
...and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking
perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them (Acts
Professing Christians who endorse
books that mock God and defend doctrines of demons fail miserably
to heed the commands of Scripture and recognize God's holy word
as their final authority. They serve as poor examples to the
Christian church and as representatives of Jesus Christ. By their
actions, they contribute to the subtle conditioning process that
clouds the minds of Christians; a process that reaches out and
snares the sheep they should be protecting in the first place.
The conditioning process is deception within deception, and sets
the stage for further, darker, deeper deception.
As Christians, we are no longer to be children, tossed
here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine,
by the trickery of men, by craftiness in
deceitful scheming; but speaking the truth in love, we are to
grow up in all aspects
into Him who is the head, even Christ (Ephesians 4:14-15).
In his compelling and powerful sermon,
Spirit of This Age, the late Walter Martin reminds Christians
"It is not unloving to tell
people the truth. You can get into a lot of trouble doing it.
But if you're in the ministry of God for popularity contests,
you have chosen the wrong place. You are supposed to be a witness
for Jesus Christ--no matter what it costs."
In the same sermon, Martin delivered
a solemn warning to the Christian church:
"...when you've got your arm around
the wolf, instead of sheep, and you're calling
the wolf 'brother,' then you are prejudicing the gospel, and
you are in a very dangerous position where Christians who don't
know the truth are concerned. It is imperative that we return
to the Biblical standard of righteousness."
in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ
unto eternal life. And of some have compassion, making a difference:
save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the
garment spotted by the
flesh (Jude 21-23).
What the body of Christ does not need is spineless
Christians who are more concerned about their positions, affiliations,
loss of financial support, alliances, and peer-pressure reprisal
from their colleagues and constituants.
What the body of Christ does need is strong, discerning
Christians who are more concerned with what God says in His word
and unafraid of what others might say or do; who are bold in
their stance against doctrines of demons; who are willing to
expose those who are actively involved in the endorsement and
promotion of books such as A Different Jesus?.
But it was because
of the false brethren secretly brought in, who had sneaked in
spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, in order to
bring us into bondage.
But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour,
so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you (Galatians 2:4-5).
Did Paul "yield in subjection" to the cultists, heretics
and compromisers of his day? No! Did Paul travel from city-to-city
under the banner of "missiology," side-by-side with
cultists? No! Did Paul conduct warm and fuzzy "dialogues"
with cultists in Christian churches? No! Did Paul "bridge-the-gap"
between Christian and non-Christian denominations? No! Did Paul
make "good friends" with wolves in sheep's clothing?
No! Did Paul endorse the writings of cultists? No!
Paul loved Jesus Christ with all his heart and soul. He didn't
sacrifice the gospel or waiver in its defense for good-ol'-boy
alliances, academic positions, peer-pressure popularity or friendships
with enemies of the cross (Philippians chapter 3). On the contrary,
Paul's missionary journey was wrought with danger and terrible
persecution, the likes of which most modern-day Christians have
yet to experience:
Are they servants
of Christ?--I speak as if insane--I more so; in far more labors,
in far more imprisonments, beaten times without number, often
in danger of death. Five
times I received from the Jews thirty-nine lashes. Three times
I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was
shipwrecked, a night and a day I have spent in the deep. I have
been on frequent journeys, in dangers from rivers, dangers from
robbers, dangers from my countrymen, dangers from the Gentiles,
dangers in the city, dangers
in the wilderness, dangers on the sea, dangers among false brethren;
I have been in labor and hardship, through many sleepless nights,
in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure.
Apart from such external things, there is the daily pressure
on me of concern for all the churches (2 Corinthians 11:23-28).
In spite of everything Paul experienced in his witness for Christ,
he maintained concern for the spiritual welfare of the church,
which is what every professing Christian should emulate, no matter
how costly it may be.
Paul didn't compromise, and neither should we...not for one hour,
one minute or one second.
Sincerely in Christ,
Bud Press, Director
Christian Research Service
July 4, 2005
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and Judy Robertson)
Utah Lighthouse Ministry
(Jerald and Sandra Tanner)
H.I.S. Ministries International
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